1937 found Rudolph once again marrying. He married the grandmother I grew up knowing, Edith Gertrude Tryon.
Edith and Rudy had 4 kids; Richard in 1938, Noreen in 1942, Sharon in 1946 and Michael in 1957. In 1949 Edith, Rudy and all 5 kids moved to Phoenix. The story is Rudy was transferred for works purposes. He was an electrician with the union and jobs were more plentiful in Phoenix. This story was believed until
about 18 months ago. Now I have more questions and information to find.
October of 2009 I received an email from a gentleman looking for his birth parents. He had found his birth fathers family and unfortunately his father had passed away in 1984. He knew his mothers first name was Grace, born in Wacounda, Illinois September 12, 1928 and her family moved to Phoenix in early 1949. Well, imagine my surprise as this guy just described everything about my mother. The next morning we met as he resides 10 minutes from where I have lived for the past 14 years. There was no doubt in my mind when I walked into that restaurant that he was family. It was like my grandfather Rudy was looking at me. Of course being the genealogy researcher I am, I did confirm everything via several documents. Also my mothers reluctance to meet him really sealed the deal.
Tip #9: Be very open to finding almost everything and anything when your doing your research. Remember, our parents had a life before us and while we never want to think they had secrets, they certainly did! Okay, well my parents definitely did.
Where do we go from here? Come back soon...
Four Generations
Loretta, Don, Vicki with Andy, Grace and Clarence Hilb
Showing posts with label Rudolph. Show all posts
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Friday, July 1, 2011
Sunday, June 5, 2011
So what happened to Grace and Rudolph after Patsy's Death?
Rudolph had full custody of Grace at the time of Patsy's death. They resided in an apartment in Chicago and had a housekeeper Theresa.
Rudolph married Mary Kern of Joliet Illinois on July 2, 1932(per their marriage certificate). Rudolph was 26 and Mary was 18. The marriage took place in Chicago Illinois.
It is not clear of how they met or where they resided during the marriage. It could have been Chicago or it could have been Hammond Indiana where Rudolph filed for divorce.
There is an article in The Hammond Times March 22, 1937:
R. SCHUBNELL ASKS FOR DIVORCE FROM 2ND WIFE:
Rudolph Schubnell, 2855 Truman Avenue Hammond today filed divorce proceedings in Hammond Superior court against his wife Mary whom he married on July 21, 1932.
The couple separated on November 16, 1936, when according to the complaint Mrs. Schubnell left home. She was his second wife and is alleged in the bill to have scolded her husband because of an 8 year old child by the first marriage.
TIP #8: Watch those dates. The marriage certificate shows the date of marriage as July 2, 1932 and the newspaper shows July 21, 1932.
I have attempted to locate a copy of the divorce proceedings with no luck to date. Probably have to make a trip to Hammond and do the research myself.
I want to know a little bit more about the scolding Rudolph got about the 8 year old (my mother Grace). There are stories that my mother resided with Aunt Dorothea and Uncle Bud for several years while growing up. Could this have been during the time frame Rudolph was married to Mary and the scolding was because she found out about Grace? More research to go....
Note: Aunt Dorothea and Uncle Bud aka Dorothea and Bud Schwartzentraub. Bud was Rudolph's business partner for several years. We always considered them family.
Rudolph married Mary Kern of Joliet Illinois on July 2, 1932(per their marriage certificate). Rudolph was 26 and Mary was 18. The marriage took place in Chicago Illinois.
It is not clear of how they met or where they resided during the marriage. It could have been Chicago or it could have been Hammond Indiana where Rudolph filed for divorce.
There is an article in The Hammond Times March 22, 1937:
R. SCHUBNELL ASKS FOR DIVORCE FROM 2ND WIFE:
Rudolph Schubnell, 2855 Truman Avenue Hammond today filed divorce proceedings in Hammond Superior court against his wife Mary whom he married on July 21, 1932.
The couple separated on November 16, 1936, when according to the complaint Mrs. Schubnell left home. She was his second wife and is alleged in the bill to have scolded her husband because of an 8 year old child by the first marriage.
TIP #8: Watch those dates. The marriage certificate shows the date of marriage as July 2, 1932 and the newspaper shows July 21, 1932.
I have attempted to locate a copy of the divorce proceedings with no luck to date. Probably have to make a trip to Hammond and do the research myself.
I want to know a little bit more about the scolding Rudolph got about the 8 year old (my mother Grace). There are stories that my mother resided with Aunt Dorothea and Uncle Bud for several years while growing up. Could this have been during the time frame Rudolph was married to Mary and the scolding was because she found out about Grace? More research to go....
Note: Aunt Dorothea and Uncle Bud aka Dorothea and Bud Schwartzentraub. Bud was Rudolph's business partner for several years. We always considered them family.
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