Arthur's attorney sought to withdraw the guilty plea to murder and enter a plea of manslaughter. the judge denied the motion.
The state attorney did not seek the death penalty but requested a heavy sentence. The plaintiff attorney plead for a light sentence asking for the minimum term.
Judge Eldredge advised: "There are two things which excuses a person from killing another. One is in defense of his own life, family or property and the other insanity. There is nothing else which gives any person the right to take the life of a human being. Voluntary intoxication is no excuse for crime. That is the law the world over." He was sentenced to 35 years in the State Prison at Joliet Illinois. He started the sentence on April 5, 1933.
Palmer Byrne the attorney appointed to defend Arthur was then awarded $150 for his defense of Arthur.
WOW! Lots of information on what happened to Patsy! What happened to Arthur? See ya...
My family has many stories passed down via generations, however interestingly not all those stories were accurate. Surprised? Not really. My blog will reveal some of the secrets kept by my family for generations and how I came upon the truth. Hopefully this will help others in their research.
Four Generations
Loretta, Don, Vicki with Andy, Grace and Clarence Hilb
Showing posts with label Patricia Shubnell. Show all posts
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Sunday, April 24, 2011
Thursday, April 21, 2011
Judge Hears Testimony to Fix Penalty
Arthur Rigney took the stand at 11:10 am on March 31, 1933. Through questions from his attorney he told the story of his life. He told of giving Patsy money and of alleged illicit relations with her. He testified about his wife and daughter in New York. He told of proposing marriage to Patsy.
He was born on a farm in Palmyra Missouri a part of a family of four boys and three girls. He spoke of residing in Hannibal with his wife, daughter and in laws and their move to Cicero New York. He left New York because his mother in law mistreated him.
He told he met Patsy a year ago January via an introduction by Earl Smith in Naplate. Patsy was residing at the same house but with the Webb family. Arthur saw her regularly. He told of taking Patsy to shows and dances and that after he broke his leg he recuperated at the Webb home with Patsy. He was in love with her when he started his three week stay there and more in love when he left.
He said on one or two occasions he talked with Patsy about marriage and once asked her if she would like to be his wife. She laughed and asked if he was married and he said yes and she told him he needed to get a divorce. He said he was giving Patsy money and she only asked for money on two occasions. Once was for $10 to buy a coat and another to loan Mrs. Webb $10. He said Patsy never bought a coat but bought someone else a present. He said Patsy was not running around with any man but him.
It is amazing the detail you can find in newspaper accounts. See ya soon....
He was born on a farm in Palmyra Missouri a part of a family of four boys and three girls. He spoke of residing in Hannibal with his wife, daughter and in laws and their move to Cicero New York. He left New York because his mother in law mistreated him.
He told he met Patsy a year ago January via an introduction by Earl Smith in Naplate. Patsy was residing at the same house but with the Webb family. Arthur saw her regularly. He told of taking Patsy to shows and dances and that after he broke his leg he recuperated at the Webb home with Patsy. He was in love with her when he started his three week stay there and more in love when he left.
He said on one or two occasions he talked with Patsy about marriage and once asked her if she would like to be his wife. She laughed and asked if he was married and he said yes and she told him he needed to get a divorce. He said he was giving Patsy money and she only asked for money on two occasions. Once was for $10 to buy a coat and another to loan Mrs. Webb $10. He said Patsy never bought a coat but bought someone else a present. He said Patsy was not running around with any man but him.
It is amazing the detail you can find in newspaper accounts. See ya soon....
Sunday, April 17, 2011
Rigney Pleads Guilty to Charge of Murder
TIP #7: By reading these older articles you will notice and learn about the justice system then and the major differences between then and now.
Arthur Rigney plead guilty to a murder charge before Judge Edgar Eldridge in the circuit court on March 27, 1933. The judge did not immediately sentence him but scheduled the next morning to hear evidence in the case.
Before accepting Arthur's plea the judge appointed Palmer Byrne as Arthur's attorney. The judge reminded Arthur that if he plead guilty the court was mandated to sentence him to a minimum of 14 years and possibly life imprisonment or the death penalty. Arthur confirmed knowledge and plead guilty.
Palmer Byrne advised that Arthur was going to take the stand and it would take 2 days to present evidence in this case.
Harley Patterson a co-worker testified that Arthur was drunk the night of the shooting. W O Rigney brother of Arthur testified about Arthur's unhappy married life. He alleged that the parents of Arthur's wife interfered in their life. He advised Arthur was a good provider. He said that shortly before the marriage Arthur advised his father he did not love the girl and did not want to marry. The girls mother and step-father owned allot of land around Hannibal Missouri and the girl insisted on going with Arthur. Shortly after they married Arthur started to build them their own house. Once the foundation was completed his mother in law told Arthur her daughter would never be allowed to reside there. The wife and mother often went out to shows together and Arthur would have to go out alone. When the family all moved to Syracuse New York, Arthur and his wife separated and Arthur returned to Hannibal and then to Ottawa. Many character witnesses were called and they advised Arthur never had been seen drunk before that night.
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Arthur Rigney plead guilty to a murder charge before Judge Edgar Eldridge in the circuit court on March 27, 1933. The judge did not immediately sentence him but scheduled the next morning to hear evidence in the case.
Before accepting Arthur's plea the judge appointed Palmer Byrne as Arthur's attorney. The judge reminded Arthur that if he plead guilty the court was mandated to sentence him to a minimum of 14 years and possibly life imprisonment or the death penalty. Arthur confirmed knowledge and plead guilty.
Palmer Byrne advised that Arthur was going to take the stand and it would take 2 days to present evidence in this case.
Harley Patterson a co-worker testified that Arthur was drunk the night of the shooting. W O Rigney brother of Arthur testified about Arthur's unhappy married life. He alleged that the parents of Arthur's wife interfered in their life. He advised Arthur was a good provider. He said that shortly before the marriage Arthur advised his father he did not love the girl and did not want to marry. The girls mother and step-father owned allot of land around Hannibal Missouri and the girl insisted on going with Arthur. Shortly after they married Arthur started to build them their own house. Once the foundation was completed his mother in law told Arthur her daughter would never be allowed to reside there. The wife and mother often went out to shows together and Arthur would have to go out alone. When the family all moved to Syracuse New York, Arthur and his wife separated and Arthur returned to Hannibal and then to Ottawa. Many character witnesses were called and they advised Arthur never had been seen drunk before that night.
Come back for more...
Thursday, April 14, 2011
Slayer Paces All Night In His Jail Cell
Arthur explained, "I loved the girl and just lost my head."
Arthur, at the county jail ate regularly and until the night before the verdict was due, slept with no problem. This night (February 25, 1933) he paced the floor of his cell all night keeping others awake.
March 8, 1933 it is decided to present the case to the grand jury March 13, 1933.
March 15, 1933 fire destroys auto, garage at murder scene. Fire of an unknown origin destroyed the garage
at the John McCormick home, where Patricia Schubnell was murdered. A year prior the garage was struck by lightening and destroyed. the structure that burned was a new structure.
March 17, 1933 A murder indictment was returned by the grand jury against Arthur Ringney.
Another interesting article is: Raymond Hall of Naplate was indicted on a bill charging him with assault with a deadly weapon and intent to roll Felix Wajculas, Naplate junk dealer. Wajculas sustained a fractured skull in a holdup in January.
Who is Raymond Hall? Have to check back for that answer...
TIP#6: While you might be reading the news article for certain facts, be open minded about what else is on the page. The particular page about the murder indictment has been read by myself 5 or 6 times before I saw the next paragraph about Raymond Hall. Raymond plays a part in Patsy's life as well.
Arthur, at the county jail ate regularly and until the night before the verdict was due, slept with no problem. This night (February 25, 1933) he paced the floor of his cell all night keeping others awake.
March 8, 1933 it is decided to present the case to the grand jury March 13, 1933.
March 15, 1933 fire destroys auto, garage at murder scene. Fire of an unknown origin destroyed the garage
at the John McCormick home, where Patricia Schubnell was murdered. A year prior the garage was struck by lightening and destroyed. the structure that burned was a new structure.
March 17, 1933 A murder indictment was returned by the grand jury against Arthur Ringney.
Another interesting article is: Raymond Hall of Naplate was indicted on a bill charging him with assault with a deadly weapon and intent to roll Felix Wajculas, Naplate junk dealer. Wajculas sustained a fractured skull in a holdup in January.
Who is Raymond Hall? Have to check back for that answer...
TIP#6: While you might be reading the news article for certain facts, be open minded about what else is on the page. The particular page about the murder indictment has been read by myself 5 or 6 times before I saw the next paragraph about Raymond Hall. Raymond plays a part in Patsy's life as well.
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
John P McCormick testifies
The murder happened at the home that John P McCormick was renting and Patsy was residing in. John advised that he resided in Chicago two years prior and knew Patsy then. They were never sweethearts. John only knew Arthur Ringney by the name "Geranium". He had met him 2.5 months prior at his home. Geranium came there to see Patsy. He was not sure if they were in love, and never thought it was a serious case. Patsy went to shows and things like that with other fellows. Geranium thought she should stick to him better then she did.
McCormick said he went to bed about 1:30 and was awaken around 2:00 am by the click of a gun. Patsy was lieing on the bed next to him fully clothed with the exception of shoes and stockings. He asked Geranium what he was doing with the gun and Geranium told him he was going to kill her. He then turned and ran downstairs. John told Patsy to go to the other room to quiet things down.
Geranium came back upstairs and told her several times he was going to kill her. Patsy told him he was yellow. Then "I saw him fire the gun". He took the gun from Geranium and Geranium ran from the house. John placed the gun on the table by the door and it later disappeared.
The Jeffries testified as well as Felix Wacjulas. The witnesses were released from custody after their testimony with the exception of Felix. He was taken back to the jail for further questioning about the gun. Felix was a junk dealer. More about the verdict and jury...
P.S. Reading through the news account makes you feel like you were there. Wish they could find the original court transcripts.
McCormick said he went to bed about 1:30 and was awaken around 2:00 am by the click of a gun. Patsy was lieing on the bed next to him fully clothed with the exception of shoes and stockings. He asked Geranium what he was doing with the gun and Geranium told him he was going to kill her. He then turned and ran downstairs. John told Patsy to go to the other room to quiet things down.
Geranium came back upstairs and told her several times he was going to kill her. Patsy told him he was yellow. Then "I saw him fire the gun". He took the gun from Geranium and Geranium ran from the house. John placed the gun on the table by the door and it later disappeared.
The Jeffries testified as well as Felix Wacjulas. The witnesses were released from custody after their testimony with the exception of Felix. He was taken back to the jail for further questioning about the gun. Felix was a junk dealer. More about the verdict and jury...
P.S. Reading through the news account makes you feel like you were there. Wish they could find the original court transcripts.
Sunday, April 10, 2011
Divorcee, 21, Murdered by Jealous Lover
Arthur Ringney was married but separated from his wife and child. The wife and child were residing in New York with her parents.
Fern Saunders sister to Patsy was notified and said relatives would come to Ottawa to claim the body. (How did they know to notify Fern versus Patsy's father Elmer?) Elmer and Fern went to Ottawa the afternoon of Thursday February 23, 1933. They first spoke with the sheriff and then the witnesses at the jail.
Patsy is survived by three brothers Elmer, Stephen and Joseph as well as her sister Fern and father Elmer.
Thursday evening February 23, 1933 the coroner's jury heard testimony in the murder of Patricia (Patsy) Schubnell and held Arthur Rigney over for the March grand jury.
Several individuals testified in front of the coroner's jury including Arthur. He advised his associates know him as "Geranium". He had been working for Congress Construction Company at Marseilles. He had been off work for about three weeks and had spent most of that time at the McCormick residence with Patsy. He advised he had known Patsy for about one year and three or four months and had been keeping company with her for eight or nine months. They went to shows and dances and were sweethearts. They were not planning on getting married right away. He thought he had a claim on her.
Tip #5: Newspapers contain so much information. They can lead you to various other discoveries.
Come back and I will reveal the testimony of John P McCormick...
Fern Saunders sister to Patsy was notified and said relatives would come to Ottawa to claim the body. (How did they know to notify Fern versus Patsy's father Elmer?) Elmer and Fern went to Ottawa the afternoon of Thursday February 23, 1933. They first spoke with the sheriff and then the witnesses at the jail.
Patsy is survived by three brothers Elmer, Stephen and Joseph as well as her sister Fern and father Elmer.
Thursday evening February 23, 1933 the coroner's jury heard testimony in the murder of Patricia (Patsy) Schubnell and held Arthur Rigney over for the March grand jury.
Several individuals testified in front of the coroner's jury including Arthur. He advised his associates know him as "Geranium". He had been working for Congress Construction Company at Marseilles. He had been off work for about three weeks and had spent most of that time at the McCormick residence with Patsy. He advised he had known Patsy for about one year and three or four months and had been keeping company with her for eight or nine months. They went to shows and dances and were sweethearts. They were not planning on getting married right away. He thought he had a claim on her.
Tip #5: Newspapers contain so much information. They can lead you to various other discoveries.
Come back and I will reveal the testimony of John P McCormick...
Sunday, April 3, 2011
Divorcee Slain By Lover - Killer Arrested as He Returns for Coat and Hat
The headlines were a real eye catcher. Who could resist reading the story.
The paper: Daily Republic - Ottawa Illinois - Thursday February 23, 1933
Price of the paper was THREE CENTS
"Infuriated because he found his sweetheart in the bedroom of another man, Arthur Ringney, 46 a Hannibal MO, steel workers employed on the waterway at Marseilles, shot and killed Mrs. Patsy Schubnell, 21, a beautiful titian haired divorcee, at the home of John McCormick on the Ottawa avenue road in Naples, at 2:30 this morning."
Lots of clues here: 1. Arthur Rigney - 46 - from Hannibal MO
2. Arthur's place of employment
3. Patricia aka Patsy - hair color
4. Location and time of murder
The article goes on to include Arthur returning to the McCormick residence 45 minutes after the shooting for his coat and hat. (Remember this was Illinois in February). He made a statement: "I'm sorry I didn't have more bullets to shoot McCormick." He was taken to the county jail were he confessed to Sheriff E J Weiter and Elmer Mohan state attorney. The witnesses McCormick, Wajculas and the Jeffries were jailed as witnesses until after the coroner's inquest.
The article then relates how Patsy ended up being there in Ottawa, residing in the McCormick home and her plans to return to the Chicago area the day of her death. It is said that Ringney was going to accompany her to Chicago.
McCormick and Wajculas shared a room while Patsy stayed in the other bedroom. Around 1:30 am McCormick and Wajculas went to to bed and the Jeffries went to Patsy's room to sleep. Patsy and Arthur stayed downstairs for a short time and Patsy told Arthur she was going upstairs to sleep in her room. When Arthur went upstairs a short time later he found Patsy laying fully clothed on McCormick's bed.
McCormick was not aware Patsy was there until Arthur started yelling that Patsy was double crossing him and pressed the trigger of the revolver that failed to fire. He then went downstairs and loaded the gun. During this time Patsy went to her own room and closed the door. Arthur returned, taunted back and forth with Patsy about killing her for double crossing him, and he shot her five times. One was in the region of the heart, another a short distance away and three in the face.
McCormick grabbed the gun from Arthur, who then ran down the stairs and out the front door in his shirt and pants. McCormick placed the gun on the table by the front door and ran after Arthur. During this time the gun disappeared and according to all accounts was never recovered. Much more information to come including contact with Arthur's living relatives....
The paper: Daily Republic - Ottawa Illinois - Thursday February 23, 1933
Price of the paper was THREE CENTS
"Infuriated because he found his sweetheart in the bedroom of another man, Arthur Ringney, 46 a Hannibal MO, steel workers employed on the waterway at Marseilles, shot and killed Mrs. Patsy Schubnell, 21, a beautiful titian haired divorcee, at the home of John McCormick on the Ottawa avenue road in Naples, at 2:30 this morning."
Lots of clues here: 1. Arthur Rigney - 46 - from Hannibal MO
2. Arthur's place of employment
3. Patricia aka Patsy - hair color
4. Location and time of murder
The article goes on to include Arthur returning to the McCormick residence 45 minutes after the shooting for his coat and hat. (Remember this was Illinois in February). He made a statement: "I'm sorry I didn't have more bullets to shoot McCormick." He was taken to the county jail were he confessed to Sheriff E J Weiter and Elmer Mohan state attorney. The witnesses McCormick, Wajculas and the Jeffries were jailed as witnesses until after the coroner's inquest.
The article then relates how Patsy ended up being there in Ottawa, residing in the McCormick home and her plans to return to the Chicago area the day of her death. It is said that Ringney was going to accompany her to Chicago.
McCormick and Wajculas shared a room while Patsy stayed in the other bedroom. Around 1:30 am McCormick and Wajculas went to to bed and the Jeffries went to Patsy's room to sleep. Patsy and Arthur stayed downstairs for a short time and Patsy told Arthur she was going upstairs to sleep in her room. When Arthur went upstairs a short time later he found Patsy laying fully clothed on McCormick's bed.
McCormick was not aware Patsy was there until Arthur started yelling that Patsy was double crossing him and pressed the trigger of the revolver that failed to fire. He then went downstairs and loaded the gun. During this time Patsy went to her own room and closed the door. Arthur returned, taunted back and forth with Patsy about killing her for double crossing him, and he shot her five times. One was in the region of the heart, another a short distance away and three in the face.
McCormick grabbed the gun from Arthur, who then ran down the stairs and out the front door in his shirt and pants. McCormick placed the gun on the table by the front door and ran after Arthur. During this time the gun disappeared and according to all accounts was never recovered. Much more information to come including contact with Arthur's living relatives....
Wednesday, March 9, 2011
Patricia Shubnell (Schubnell)
So the newspaper articles were a wealth of information and also educational. Patricia was residing in Ottawa in the home of John McCormick. Patricia actually resided there first with the Glenn Webb's and when they moved and John started renting, Patricia asked to stay for a couple of weeks as she was moving back to Chicago and only wanted to move once. John agreed, but i think he probably wondered about his decision later.
On February 22, 1933 Patricia, Arthur Rigney, John McCormick, Felix Wajculas, Louis and Earl Jeffries, Betty Jean Wagner and a few others were at the McCormick residence dancing and partying. Around midnight Patricia decided to go to bed. She had her own room and John and Felix were sharing the other room until she moved out. When she got to her room, it was already occupied. Fully clothed she went into John and Felix's room took of her shoes and lay down on the bed next to John.
Arthur Rigney was in love with Patricia, but it appears she was not in love with him. He came to John's room and found Patricia in bed next to John and went crazy yelling. John woke and told Patricia to go to the other room until Arthur calmed down. Arthur ran downstairs to his bag and grabbed his gun. When he came back upstairs he yelled at Patricia how she had cheated on him and was going to shoot her. She tautened back that he did have the guts to do it and he shot her three times. Death was instant at 2:20am on February 23, 1933.
Arthur ran down the stairs, dropped the gun on the hallway table and ran out the door and down the street. John ran after him, but was not able to catch him. When John returned to the house the gun was gone. (It never was recovered through the entire investigation.) Felix Wajculas had called the sheriff. Since it was February and they were in Chicago it was cold out. Arthur realized he left his coat and hat at the McCormick house and went back to get them. When he returned the sheriff was there and arrested him.
The Jeffries had been in Patricia's room and they left the residence and headed for their home in Streator, on foot. The Jeffires, John McCormick and Felix Wajculas were all detained for the length of the trial. (Additional reading I have done indicates the reason for this was the transient nature of the group and the court did not want them to disappear. This was a common practice in those times.)
More on the trial next time.....
On February 22, 1933 Patricia, Arthur Rigney, John McCormick, Felix Wajculas, Louis and Earl Jeffries, Betty Jean Wagner and a few others were at the McCormick residence dancing and partying. Around midnight Patricia decided to go to bed. She had her own room and John and Felix were sharing the other room until she moved out. When she got to her room, it was already occupied. Fully clothed she went into John and Felix's room took of her shoes and lay down on the bed next to John.
Arthur Rigney was in love with Patricia, but it appears she was not in love with him. He came to John's room and found Patricia in bed next to John and went crazy yelling. John woke and told Patricia to go to the other room until Arthur calmed down. Arthur ran downstairs to his bag and grabbed his gun. When he came back upstairs he yelled at Patricia how she had cheated on him and was going to shoot her. She tautened back that he did have the guts to do it and he shot her three times. Death was instant at 2:20am on February 23, 1933.
Arthur ran down the stairs, dropped the gun on the hallway table and ran out the door and down the street. John ran after him, but was not able to catch him. When John returned to the house the gun was gone. (It never was recovered through the entire investigation.) Felix Wajculas had called the sheriff. Since it was February and they were in Chicago it was cold out. Arthur realized he left his coat and hat at the McCormick house and went back to get them. When he returned the sheriff was there and arrested him.
The Jeffries had been in Patricia's room and they left the residence and headed for their home in Streator, on foot. The Jeffires, John McCormick and Felix Wajculas were all detained for the length of the trial. (Additional reading I have done indicates the reason for this was the transient nature of the group and the court did not want them to disappear. This was a common practice in those times.)
More on the trial next time.....
Saturday, March 5, 2011
Patricia Shubnell
Logic: With Patricia being murdered via a gun there had to be police involvement, media involvement and medical records. What was going to be the easiest and quickest to get? Media - newspaper stories.
Research: So contact the local Ottawa paper? No they couldn't help. Contact the Chicago Tribune? No nothing there I could find. Hm.
Resources: Ottawa Illinois is in LaSalle county. There is a local genealogical society website. They can more then likely help and/or direct me where to start my search. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~illasall/
I made contact with them and explained I would not be able to travel to the area for awhile. I was more then willing to reimburse expenses and time if someone could help me find the articles. What a wonderful group of people. They not only found the articles and sent them to me, they helped fill in several holes in the family tree.
Tip #4: Use all your available resources. Genealogy Societies, Historical Societies and Special Library Sections have very knowledgeable people about the area and history and are great help. Always offer to pay for the services.
Oh, i bet your looking for the results from the newspaper articles. Okay, but your gonna have to come back for more information...
Research: So contact the local Ottawa paper? No they couldn't help. Contact the Chicago Tribune? No nothing there I could find. Hm.
Resources: Ottawa Illinois is in LaSalle county. There is a local genealogical society website. They can more then likely help and/or direct me where to start my search. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~illasall/
I made contact with them and explained I would not be able to travel to the area for awhile. I was more then willing to reimburse expenses and time if someone could help me find the articles. What a wonderful group of people. They not only found the articles and sent them to me, they helped fill in several holes in the family tree.
Tip #4: Use all your available resources. Genealogy Societies, Historical Societies and Special Library Sections have very knowledgeable people about the area and history and are great help. Always offer to pay for the services.
Oh, i bet your looking for the results from the newspaper articles. Okay, but your gonna have to come back for more information...
Saturday, February 26, 2011
Patricia Snave Shubnell (Schubnell)
So we have a name, where do we go now? Search the Internet and see what pops up? How about the Illinois Statewide Death Index? http://www.ilsos.gov/GenealogyMWeb/IDPHDeathSearchServlet
Okay, Patricia Schubnell? Nothing. So, she could have gotten married again, but I also know that you have to be creative with spelling and finally after many tries found her under Patricia Shubnell.
Last Name First Name Middle Sex/Race Age Certificate # Date of Death County
SHUBNELL PATRICIA V F/W UNK 0500059 1933-02-23 LA SALLE
City Date Filed
OTTAWA TWP 33-02-23
Excellent, I know had her:
I sent away for the death certificate. Okay, i sent my money on Saturday do you think they will receive it and send the certificate on Monday? No way.
Tip number 3: Patience is a virtue we must all possess!
Okay, it's here, let's see what it says!
I know it is a little hard to read:
Okay, Patricia Schubnell? Nothing. So, she could have gotten married again, but I also know that you have to be creative with spelling and finally after many tries found her under Patricia Shubnell.
Last Name First Name Middle Sex/Race Age Certificate # Date of Death County
SHUBNELL PATRICIA V F/W UNK 0500059 1933-02-23 LA SALLE
City Date Filed
OTTAWA TWP 33-02-23
Excellent, I know had her:
- middle initial - V (hm wonder if it's Victoria like me)
- date of death
- death certificate number
- location of death
I sent away for the death certificate. Okay, i sent my money on Saturday do you think they will receive it and send the certificate on Monday? No way.
Tip number 3: Patience is a virtue we must all possess!
Okay, it's here, let's see what it says!
I know it is a little hard to read:
- Patricia V Shubnell
- Ottawa Ave
- Female, White, Divorced
- Husband: Rudolph Shubnell
- Date of birth: 02/27/1909
- Age: 23 years 11 months 26 days
- Trade: none
- Industry: none
- Birthplace: Chicago, Illinois
- Father: Elmer C Snave York Pennsylvania
- Mother: Amelia Thompson Derbyshire England
- Informant: Elmer C Snave 1517 E 63rd Place Chicago
- Burial: OakWood Cemetery Chicago Illinois 02/25/1933
- Undertaker: W. F. Bailey Ottawa Illinois
- Date of Death: 02/23/1933
- I hereby certify, that I took charge of the remains of the deceased herein described, held an Inquest thereon and from the evidence obtained find that said deceased came to her death on the date stated above and that Disease or injury causing death was: from gun shot wounds through the lungs and heart.
- Manner of injury was: Murdered at 2:20am, death occurred immediately.
- Homicidal
- H S Lester MD Coroner
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